VICTORY IN IRAQ DAY!
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On this November 22, 2008, join us in observing Victory in Iraq Day.
Let us honor the sacrifice, dedication and sheer determination of American, coalition and Iraqi troops who have brought freedom to the nation and people of Iraq.
Although our governments have chosen to not name any official day marking the end of this war, we the people have taken it upon ourselves to commemorate November 22, 2008 as the day of victory over the forces of tyranny, oppression and terror in Iraq.
Join fellow bloggers and other members of the public in this virtual ticker-tape parade for our brave troops, to celebrate their success, to remember the fallen, and to declare, in the words of President John F. Kennedy (RIP):
You may comment on VI Day here."Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
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![]() Victory in Iraq Day
November 22, 2008
We won. The Iraq War is over. I declare November 22, 2008 to be "Victory in Iraq Day." (Hereafter known as "VI Day.")
What more indication do you need? An announcement from the outgoing Bush administration? It's not gonna happen. An announcement from the incoming Obama administration? That's really not gonna happen. A declaration of victory by the media? Please. Don't make me laugh. A concession of surrender by what few remaining insurgents remain in hiding? Forget about it. The moment has come to acknowledge the obvious. To overtly declare a fact that has already been true for quite some time now. Let me repeat: And since there will never be a ticker-tape parade down Fifth Avenue in New York for our troops, it's up to us, the people, to arrange a virtual ticker-tape parade. An online victory celebration. Saturday, November 22, 2008 is the day of that celebration: Victory in Iraq Day.
If you want to write a short post (or a long essay) analyzing the nature of our victory or cheering the troops for a job well done, great; but if you just want to make a simple announcement of the victory, that's fine as well. Anything will do. Just come and join the celebration to mark the day. Keep reading below to find: evidence that the war is over (for the doubters); an historical discussion of previous postwar occupations and guerrilla violence; a list of blogs which have already joined the VI Day movement; free banners and graphics for you to download and put on your blog, if you so choose; and an invitation to submit your own "victory graphics" for posting here. (If you would like to comment on VI Day, you can do so here.) Observations and statistics agree: The fighting has ceased, the war is over I have felt for many months that we had already won the war, but I was spurred to action by this report from Michael Yon: This email giving a first-hand account from Baghdad was posted on November 17 at Confederate Yankeee: This post at the Mudville Gazette confirmed my conclusions. On the political front in Iraq, victory has broken out as well. On Sunday, November 16, Iraq's cabinet approved a security agreement with the U.S. which top analysts and pundits are saying is the closest we'll ever get to a bureaucratic declaration of victory and of the war's end. Hugh Hewitt, for example, says: The News & Observer newspaper came to the same conclusion three months ago, and many of the points are still valid: The full article (see the link) outlines many convincing facts about the state of victory in Iraq. The only thing missing is announcing the date of the war's end. Which this post rectifies.
What more need be said? Of course every death and injury of a U.S. soldier is a tragedy and I would wish to see a long string of zeros on that chart over the upcoming months. But being stationed in a nation and a region that has a long history of hostility to the U.S. and an equally long history of violence means that our troops will always face some danger there. Yet "danger" does not equal "war." Whatever lingering violence still exists is Iraq is now nothing more than a series of disconnected terrorist attacks, which have become completely ineffectual in changing the hearts and minds of the populace, or re-igniting another civil war. Columnist Ed Morrissey on November 19 points to another kind of benchmark which indicates the war's end: the fact that the Iraqi government in now engaging in infrastructure building projects that would only be possibly in peacetime: Who gets to decide when it's over? Indeed, everywhere you look, someone has highlighted yet another detail which, cumulatively, demonstrate that "peace has broken out all over" Iraq. Each person has their own criteria as to when the war was won: Some say we won the war long ago when we defeated the Iraqi Army in three weeks. Some say we won when the Iraqi government tried and executed Saddam Hussein. Some say we won when Iraqis voted democratically to elect their own leaders. Some say we won when we established control over the entirety of the country last year, eliminating the last remaining insurgent strongholds. Some say we won six months ago when the last remaining organized resistance evaporated. On the other hand, there are those who are saying (in response to this essay) that we have not reached that magical benchmark. The Iraqi parliament may have passed the security agreement solidifying Iraq's post-war stability, but some people say we should wait until the U.S. Senate approves it before we declare victory. Others say that the war won't be won until casualty levels literally drop to zero. Other say we haven't won until all troops are gone from the country. Others wait in vain for an official announcement. There is no consensus. And there never will be. Still, the cut-off point between "war" and "not war" has to be drawn somewhere, and if we don't draw the line ourselves, I guarantee it will NEVER be drawn. Because the Left and the media want to make sure that even ten years from now, when perhaps one US soldier is killed per year in an otherwise completely stable Iraq, that still won't qualify as "victory." Because their overarching goal is to to make sure that the war goes down in history as a defeat, no matter what. My opinion is: This is as good a time to declare victory as we're ever going to get. All signs point to "Yes." If you don't agree, that's perfectly fine, you can ignore this essay. But if you think this is long overdue, then climb on board. If we won, why are there troops still in Iraq? Does our victory mean that I advocate the immediate withdrawal of all troops from Iraq? No. Wars may be won but postwar occupations generally don't end crisply and cleanly like that. Troops often stay around to rebuild or to maintain the peace for years, even decades. Hell, the United States still has several military bases and many troops "occupying" Japan and Germany who have been there continuously since the end of World War II in 1945. We have two major Air Bases in Korea leftover from the Korean War. The Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba is a remnant of the Spanish-American War and has been there for over a century; the U.S. military also "occupied" the Philippines at Subic Bay for nearly a hundred years as a result of the Spanish-American War. More recently we continue to have a presence in Bosnia at Tuzla Air Base as a consequence of our role in the Bosnian War of the 1990s. What all this means is that it is standard practice in the aftermath of nearly every overseas war in which the U.S. participates for us to keep some troops there on a permanent or semi-permanent basis. Do I advocate that the domestic government of Iraq continue to assume more and more of a role in its own defense and internal security? Most definitely yes. Do I wish to see U.S. troops going on fewer and fewer patrols and handing over more and more duties to the Iraqi army as time goes by? Yes. Do I wish that there would never be another suicide bombing in Iraq by demented jihadists seeking futilely to destabilize the country? Of course. Do I wish that there would never be another act of violence in Iraq? Naturally. But these things take time. So, even though the war is over, American troops are likely to stay on the ground in Iraqi bases in some capacity for quite some time -- months, years, possibly even decades if circumstances warrant. But yes, eventually many troops will have to start coming home one way or the other. I am not opposed to an incremental "drawdown" of forces as responsibilities diminish -- which has already started to happen under the Bush administration and will likely continue under an Obama administration. What I do oppose is a reckless immediate evacuation of all American troops in Iraq as some sort of political "reward" from Obama to his antiwar supporters. That would send the wrong message to Islamic extremists around the world that the Americans were somehow "driven from Iraq," which would not actually be the case. Even if we did leave Iraq entirely, it would be in victory, not as a retreat. Since our troops did in fact win the war, they ought to have a victory parade or national celebration upon returning. But I suspect that, as has been happening up until now, the troops will just drift home mostly unannounced and uncelebrated when their "tours" are over. Which is the very reason why we need to declare a Victory in Iraq Day. If the Iraq War is over, why do we still occasionally hear reports of violence or casualties? A common misperception of warfare is that when a war is "won," all fighting immediately stops, and that all members of the losing side passively lay down their arms and surrender. While that does happen on occasion, much more frequently the fighting continues as a low-level guerrilla war or insurgency for years afterwards by the diminishing die-hard loyalists of the losing side. Even wars with crushing conclusive victories and official declarations of surrender saw continued fighting long after those wars were officially "over." After World War II, which was won as conclusively as any war was ever won, some Germans refused to acknowledge defeat and continued to operate as guerrilla assassins and saboteurs. Anti-Semitic massacres in Europe continued into 1946 long after the Nazis had been defeated. In the Pacific Theater, Japanese "holdouts" on various islands kept up their battle posts against the Americans for years and years after Japan surrendered, some well into the 1970s. After the American Civil War ended in 1865, several pro-slavery guerrilla terrorist organizations and groups of individuals continued fighting against the Union for more than a decade. The same is true of many other wars. It especially happens in modern "police actions" (such as the Iraq War) which have no actual formal "Declaration of War" and thus no official moment of surrender or ending point. (Remember that the United States has not actually declared war on anyone since 1942.) So, just because there are still occasional suicide bombings (which are becoming rarer and rarer with every passing month) and occasional sniper attacks or IED explosions (also becoming increasingly rare), that doesn't indicate that "the war is still being fought." It just means that there are a handful of die-hard extremists who refuse to give up -- which is exactly what happens after most wars. The last remaining pro-Saddam, pro-jihad or pro-Iran holdouts in Iraq are no different than any other post-war holdouts, and just because there are still a few left doesn't mean that the war is still happening, any more than the existence of the Japanese holdouts meant that WWII continued after 1945. Wars end, whether or not every single extremist or die-hard acknowledges it and lays down his weapons. What counts as "being at war"? Many other countries have ongoing issues with rebels, insurgents, guerrillas, or whatever you want to call them; simmering civil unrest. But we do not consider those countries to be at war, even though their situations are not really any different than, and are in some cases even worse than, the situation now in Iraq. Tell me: Do you consider Mexico to be at war? Yet they have an ongoing insurgency by Zapatistas in the state of Chiapas. The Philippines? They've been grappling with an Islamic insurgency for decades. Is Thailand at war? Millions of tourists don't seem to think so, but a violent rebellion by Muslim separatists in the southern provinces sometimes produces more casualties than there are in Iraq. India? They're not at war -- are they? Turkey, Sri Lanka, Colombia: The list could go on and on. In each case, the country in question is not considered to be "at war," yet it endures simmering insurgencies and/or terrorist violence that in some cases exceeds that now found in Iraq. If these countries are not considered by anyone to be "at war" -- which they are not -- then neither is Iraq. But where's the official announcement? The only reason that the war has not been declared "over" is that the media, which was generally opposed to the war and opposed to any of President Bush's policies, doesn't want to give him and his supporters the satisfaction of having been right. The media wants U.S. troops to return home, but only on condition that they do so with their tails between their legs in defeat -- not as victorious liberators, which would invalidate five years of subtle and not-so-subtle anti-war propaganda on the part of the left-leaning media. The Bush administration for its part has not declared victory for two probable reasons: first, because they fear that by so doing they would only increase the call by the media and liberal Democrats to "bring the troops home now"; and also by so doing they might invite some last-ditch spectacular terror attack by the few remaining jihadists in order to embarrass the administration. And the incoming Obama administration will certainly never announce victory, since Obama spent over a year campaigning for the Democratic primary as the anti-war candidate. So both sides refuse to say the war is over. Even though it is, in fact, over. It is up to the American people to declare victory. Which is exactly what we are doing right now. There never will be an "official" announcement from the government or the media, so you can stop waiting for it. This is the official announcement. Join the VI Day movement! Do you agree with the concept behind VI Day? Then post a VI Day entry on your blog. Once you've posted it, email me the link! And I will post a link back to your blog here on this page. Make sure to make at least two different postings: Make one now to announce your support of VI Day and to spread the word ahead of time; and make another one on November 22 itself, to celebrate! (Blogs of all political orientations are invited to join: Even if you're a progressive blogger and only want to announce an end to the war as a way to accelerate the homecoming home all troops, you are welcome to link to and/or mention VI Day too.) One last note: If anyone is planning to hold a "meatspace" (i.e. real world) party or celebration to mark VI Day, send me the details and I will post them here as well. Here is the official list of blogs that have so far agreed to mark VI Day on November 22, 2008: Victory in Iraq Day: Participating Blogs |
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(Update: I've been inundated with emails and links, far more than I can handle! The list of blogs you see here is incomplete; the full list totals well into the hundreds. I will do my best to add as many as I can over the upcoming days.) Call for submissions and designs Are you good at creating graphics? Want to participate? This is an open call to all designers and artists who would like to create buttons, banners or other graphics and widgets for people to announce Victory in Iraq Day on their blogs and Web sites. I'm no graphic designer myself, so I'll post outstanding submissions here for everyone to download. Words, terms and phrases you may want to incorporate into your design include: Victory in Iraq Day November 22, 2008 Victory in Iraq VI Day ...and anything else you think might be appropriate! I'd like to see banners that say simply "Victory in Iraq," and others that include the date; and other smaller graphics that could fit on a blog sidebar. Send all submissions to: VIDay@zombietime.com Just received this new banner from designer Bryan Taylor:
Start downloading! I think this one will be quite popular. Here are two smaller versions, if your blog has a narrower column:
Here's an excellent submission from Paul Szoldra of Paul Stanley Media:
Bloggers are encouraged to use it! Our next submission comes from "Serr8d":
Here's a VI Day button for use in blog sidebars -- in a variety of styles and sizes -- from Patrick at Dog Opus:
And here is a beautiful atmospheric image from Gathering of Eagles: NY:
Remember -- all these designs are free for anyone to use. Below you will find "Victory in Iraq Day" banners in various sizes for use on your blog, if you would like. To download them, simply right-click (Windows) or control-click (Mac) on the banners of your choice and choose "save image as" or "download this image":
Why November 22? Several people have written in to ask what is significant about November 22; why was it chosen as the date for VI Day? The answer is: There's nothing militarily significant about this day. There are no major events related to the Iraq War that happened on November 22. It's just a convenient day, chosen essentially at random. Some date must be chosen, and this is just as good as any other, since there is no actual distinct date of surrender or of the war's self-evident cessation. Others have written in to ask: Won't VI Day conflict with the anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy, which happened on November 22, 1963? Well, I suppose it might, to those who mark that anniversary. But Victory in Iraq Day is not intended to be an annual holiday, celebrated on November 22 forevermore into the future; it's a one-time only event, a declaration right now that the war is over right now. Not every end-of-a-war day becomes a national holiday. In fact, only November 11, Armistice Day for WWI, is still remembered as a national holiday (now called Veterans' Day). Does anyone in America still throw a party on May 7 or 8, the days on which the Nazis surrendered, known as VE Day? Not that I now of. And the day on which WWII finally, totally came to an end was August 15, VJ Day, on which Japan surrendered. Yet there is no national holiday on August 15. And I'd wager that 95% of Americans couldn't even tell you why August 15 was historically significant. Considering all this, that even the victory in WWII did not become an annual holiday, it's almost certain that VI Day will not become an annual holiday either -- and thus will not conflict with any annual services marking Kennedy's assassination. VI Day is a one-time only celebration. Even so, there's nothing about the nature of VI Day that is disrespectful to Kennedy's memory. Ponder these words taken from Kennedy's inaugural address, and think of them in reference to the Iraq War, and I think you'll agree that Kennedy would approve of the concept behind VI Day:
The nay-sayers, the doubters and the mockers Not everybody agrees with the idea of Victory in Iraq Day. The most common arguments against it (and my responses) are: - What if the violence flares up again next year or in the future? We'll look foolish. - The Iraq War was astronomically expensive. How can you call that a victory? - Some of the original justifications given for the invasion six years ago were bogus. - You're just reveling in the blood-soaked horror of war. War is always bad. There can never be victory in death. The most common way for blogs to express disapproval of, doubt over, or disinterest in VI Day is to simply not mention it. Which is perfectly fine. But a few sites have linked to this page, only for the purpose of criticizing it, or mocking it. Which is also perfectly fine. To be even-handed, here is a list of the sites that want us to not mark VI DAY; judge for yourself if you agree with their rationales: Instaputz (Standard left-wing anti-war spin.) Freethought Forum (The original posting is neutral about VI Day, but most of the commenters don't like the idea.) Recent photos from Iraq The following photographs were all taken within the last few weeks in Iraq, and give a flavor of what life there is now like for many of our troops, and for Iraqis. Feel free to repost any of these pictures on your own blog.
Real-world VI Day events VI Day was originally intended to be exclusively an online celebration, but a few people have taken it to the next step and organized real-world VI Day events. Most are private, but here is a list of the two public VI Day events that I've become aware of: (Planning another public VI Day event? Want it publicized? Email me.) Raleigh, North Carolina VI Day flag line
Manchester, Connecticut VI Day counter-protest
Best of the VI Day blog posts This section features quotes from some of the most outstanding VI Day posts on other blogs. Dog Opus Blog: Blackfive: sisu: Because No One Asked: The Surfing Conservative: Oh No, Another Conservative Blog: Who Is John Galt?: Gathering of Eagles: Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group: The Blog of Record: Liberty for USA: Serr8d's Cutting Edge: The Wide Awake Cafe: The Foxhole: Lock and Load: Hamilton, Madison, and Jay: The Irascible Chef: Army Wife: Rants from Ft. Livingroom: Sharp Right Turn: Barking Moonbat Early Warning System Zion Beckons: From My Position...On the Way!: Broadsides:
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OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL Comments: 728Read CommentsLeave a Comment
Last updated: 2:34 pm
September 16, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am
September 15, 2008
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."
"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.
Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.
While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.
Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.
Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.
By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.
Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
Thus, the 2010 deadline fixed by Obama is a meaningless concept, thrown in as a sop to his anti-war base.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the Bush administration have a more flexible timetable in mind.
According to Zebari, the envisaged time span is two or three years - departure in 2011 or 2012. That would let Iraq hold its next general election, the third since liberation, and resolve a number of domestic political issues.
Even then, the dates mentioned are only "notional," making the timing and the cadence of withdrawal conditional on realities on the ground as appreciated by both sides.
Iraqi leaders are divided over the US election. Iraqi President Jalal Talabani (whose party is a member of the Socialist International) sees Obama as "a man of the Left" - who, once elected, might change his opposition to Iraq's liberation. Indeed, say Talabani's advisers, a President Obama might be tempted to appropriate the victory that America has already won in Iraq by claiming that his intervention transformed failure into success.
Maliki's advisers have persuaded him that Obama will win - but the prime minister worries about the senator's "political debt to the anti-war lobby" - which is determined to transform Iraq into a disaster to prove that toppling Saddam Hussein was "the biggest strategic blunder in US history."
Other prominent Iraqi leaders, such as Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi and Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, believe that Sen. John McCain would show "a more realistic approach to Iraqi issues."
Obama has given Iraqis the impression that he doesn't want Iraq to appear anything like a success, let alone a victory, for America. The reason? He fears that the perception of US victory there might revive the Bush Doctrine of "pre-emptive" war - that is, removing a threat before it strikes at America.
Despite some usual equivocations on the subject, Obama rejects pre-emption as a legitimate form of self -defense. To be credible, his foreign-policy philosophy requires Iraq to be seen as a failure, a disaster, a quagmire, a pig with lipstick or any of the other apocalyptic adjectives used by the American defeat industry in the past five years.
Yet Iraq is doing much better than its friends hoped and its enemies feared. The UN mandate will be extended in December, and we may yet get an agreement on the status of forces before President Bush leaves the White House in January.